Friday, June 15, 2007

Lakhnaur to Kualalmpur: Coincidences

  Lakhnaur to Kualalmpur
14.6.2006
Incidentally today I was much late due to Dhirendra and when I took a bus at the Central Silk Board and entered in a bus for BTM Layout  the conductor said that it will go up to the East End from where I could take other bus for the South End where my office was situated.

There was not rush in the bus and two young persons were talking in Hindi . One of them came to sit besides me on next stop and I asked his house.
He was  Paramjit from Patna.
I  told him that I was from Madhubani.
The boy standing had small hairs and a small Teek on the small hairs, which must be cut for some rituals, and I guessed that her was a Maithil.
I asked  Parmjeet as to from where his friend was. He said might be from my area.
I asked that boy.
He was Rajesh from Lakhnaur of Madhubani and was working in the IT sector at Jhanjharpur. I gave him my one line introduction that I worked for the Antarrashtriya Maithli Parishad and had visited his village when it was flooded few years back and I had gone to have medical camp at nearby village Pachhi  as well as Jhanjharpur where his father Umesh Thakur was working in the SBI.
I referred one Vermajee who had arranged my meeting and whose article was also printed in the same book 'Yeh Madhubani Hai," in which mine was  too- "A pedestrian's view" describing my padyatra/cycle yatra during 1993-94 of the district and presenting the salient  developmental plan of the same.

Before visiting Jhanjharur for a meeting by Vermaji, I had gone  to Mehath , a young Maithil author Anand's village though he could studied only up to I Com  due to pressing familial problems he had  written tree drama books  which were also played by the Kokil Manch of Kolkata.

I recall the river bed and path along that to Jhanjhanpur 's Purani Bazar to the house of Vermaji whose son also incidentally was seated on my side seat of the bus from Ranchi to Darbhanga and when he said that his father's article was  also published in a book by the DM of the Madhubani I had  asked whether it was the same book in which mine articles were published. When he phoned, his father confirmed and invited me ,"we were together at least in the same book among pages.." and when I returned from Mehath doing some personal work and addressing a well organized meeting near a temple, it  was again a good meeting at the Purani Bazaar, Jhanjharur and I stayed at night at Vermaji's house.
Incidentally today(15.6.2007) , I had got a mail from Gajendra Thakur of Delhi who too belonged to the village, Mehath  and I have asked him whether it was the same Mehath and if so could he send me whereabouts of Ananad whom I saw last  in 2005 Kali Pooja at Faridabad.
Lakhnaur is famous for Radhananadan Jha's village who  had been the speaker of the Bihar Legislative Assembly. He had also attended VII International Maithili Conference at Jamshedpur and as he had been a Maithili student  as well who  spoke a lot on diverse problems of Mithila and Maithili , however, his personality  never attracted me as he was said to be close to Lalu  who tried to throttle Maithili.

Jhanjharur railway station I crossed several times and have some remembrance of the place and people- once while returning from somewhere I had a small meeting at  a gas distributor's shop east of the station and on other occasion  i9n front of the station met satish Jha, a prminent BJP worker who was apprehensive whether party would take any action if he worked for the Maithili(with Tarababu who was  then expelled  from the BJP).
I had told him that any social worker should be with the public and if he is was so he would be recognized. Tara Babu was recalled by the BJP on the same token because he was with the Maithils, the constituency of his leadership.
Personally I am not  in any political party and hence I have no fear of such happenings.

By the time I took e-mail id of  Rajesh the East End Stop has come and we were only for few minutes  in the bus in which it was difficult to know that how did he go to Kualalampur. However, I said him that Pushpk Jha, moderator ampmithila@yahoo.co.in was at Bangkok and we will be in touch.
I also then in few seconds asked Paramjeet from where he belonged – from Muzaffarpur he replied and I took his e-mail id also quickly.

     
Somebody said, "East End stop has come." I quickly got down  from the bus which had started after stopping a while.





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Tuesday, June 12, 2007

Every thing has a time-Tirupati yatra

  Every thing has a time-Tirupati yatra
I had to do a lot of paper work that whole day  for taking them to Tirupati.. From  Bangalore City station,  I phoned Amireenath Jha 'Amar' (of Bokaro who had been  at Vellore)  should I come to which he said that  his TMT was normal and he was discharged. I had thought to drop at Katapadi  at 130 am and go to Vellore few km from there in the  morning and then to go to Tirupati 110 m from there  by bus.

I could  not take my dinner  but took some snacks only with me which I had  at platform.

I was already puzzled that I was Wait List 1. Of course,  it was not a journey to Mithila that I would be happy that now our chance has come! In every list of every train there are some who are like W/L 1 but it was my first chance.

I occupied TTE's seat and chained my bag and then contacted TTE who gave me routine reply despite my introduction as a doctor in GOI service," I've to clear RAC first. No scope."

I told him that after some times I will contact him and went to the seat and started noting confusions in few corrections in Maithili Gita on a post card.  In the meantime again TTE passed from there and I quipped seeing  chandan on his forehead that I had translated Gita in my mother tongue and  I had known Swami Chinamaynanda. It had a magic effect and within half an hour he came twice to say," Please wait for some time, I will surely provide you a berth."
I told I was not in a hurry and was doing some of my writing work.
After some time he instructed me to go to other coach on berth no.7.
I recalled the episode of Chennai-Howrah Mail where the same berth no. 7 was  the TTE's berth. Did the TTE offer me his own berth? Anyway I slept there and in the morning I was at Tirupati.
I entered in a city bus and again was at the SVMC gate. I was a bit hungry and thirsty and I asked a vendor to give me grapes for a note of Rs.5. He not only gave me a good quantity but as it was his 'bohni (first customer of the day)' he prayed God with his money uttering something in Telugu (probably he was saying me that he had given me more or good grapes which certainly he had chosen big sized). I remembered that coconut gorl of last visit who had done such prayers on bohni. After few steps I washed grapes in a shop which was being ready for the idleys and ate them- grapes were big but were somewhat sour too.
Anyway for me grapes are sours always!
Though I searched that coconut girl on that road  she was not there otherwise I must have taken a coconut water.
I entered the road to SVIMS- on the left side was Kashyapa  Hostel for girls of the SV Ayurvedic Medical College. Ahead to that some persons were exercising in the early morning and so one in front  of the Physiotheray College. I saw a statue and went near that. It was of Ms. Mary MC Millan(1880-1959), the founder of physiotherapy.
I had reverence and praise for her that she in  recent past only made it a discipline by her sheer devotion.
In front was the College of Nursing- a bit asymmetrical in position, which should have been made just in front of the College of Nursing for increasing its aesthetic beauty.
I imagined that there should have a statue of  the Founder of Nursing, Mrs. Florence Nightamgle (12.5.1820-13.8.1910) and lo! It was there!

I advanced towards Dr. K. K. Sharma's quarters amidst the same route between cashew gardens- that little guide,daughter of a nurse was not that day and I reached the destination.

It was a long walk on hilly area and I was exhausted and after bath and puja I was given heavy breakfast (paratha, kheer and chana's  ghunghani).
Little Jaya Vaishnavi was playing with her little friend Radha who was daughter of an endcrinologist from north. I had taken only two pens for gifting two sisters- Shuchi Somya and Jaya Viashnavi and seeing third child I was confused on both counts to give who two were sisters and also to give them two only later I  postponed my decision  and I slept  but later I thought it would be better to give  those to jaya asking her to give one to her friend Abha which will suggest the little child a habit of giving things other and  when she returned from her school I gave her both giving instruction to give one to her friend Abha. Shuchi was a elder and so she was compromised.
In Mahabharata when  leased Yaksha asked Yudhishtir to take back his any brother, he opted for step-mother Madri's son Nakul or Sahdev not  the valiant Arjuna or Bhima who were so much required for the ensuing battle.
I rested almost whole day in between Dr. Sharma came and went his hospital twice. We had a light khichari diet with chokha about the three varieties of which I left choice on Archana- plain with green chilies though would have been better from medical point of which, others with fried onions and chilies more tastier. People like fried things but at a higher temperature fatty acids do break and are potentially carcinogenic too(as ghee in Halwa).

In the meantime, a Bharat Vikas parishad worker Nacharamji  had visited with his wife and child for  talking Dr. Archna for the forthcoming visit of their secretary General  I.D. Ojha whom if I recall had once met  nearby Agra in rail route.

In the evening,we all started for the town. Dr.Archana was driving- elder daughter Shuchi Somya had to take a gift for her friend's birthday and while they were selecting book I roamed the shelves- one book, 'Unbound India's Hindi edition'  caught my attention- of Gurucharan Das who had  in some of the essays there had dealt  as to how we Indians became poorer after the British came here. The essence was the closure of  cloth industry.
One more interesting aspect I could scan –once Jawaharlal Nehru giving a lecture on industrial revolution in India seeing a person gong to urinal diverted his whole lecture on the essence of discipline.
Shuchi Somya with her younger sister Jaya Vaishnavi went to the birthday party and we went to the house of Prof. Radha Kant Thakur, Dean of Vedang Faculty at the Rastriya Sanskrit Vidyapeeth.
I had stomach heaviness- due to the mango eaten in day with skins (which were so thin and sweet and also from the medical point of view a good source of fiber) and or with my cough cold and heavy food at Archana's house.
I could take only few puris and did not eat skin of the mango which here Kanchanjee and Radhakantjee ate with skin saying that it was a custom here to avoid untidy look of leaving skins which I had done in the afternoon unknowingly but did not do the same with them. We returned and slept.
Whole night my stomach was upset and since the morning of  10th my nose was for cough.
Kanchanji gave me cephalexin, which I started taking since sputum was purulent.

From Shuchi's books I read some chapters from An  Autobiography  by  Gandhji. I had read at least some portions of that long back but was hardly remembering anything.
I saw it was a long book 464 paged and highly subsidized by the Navjivan trust (rs.30 only).  Read Gadhiji's experiments with Brahmcharya and found hs submission for milk foods may be scientifically valid and fasting surely calms the emotions.
I also read one chapter on his acquaintance Raichandbhai at Mumbai who though a diamond jeweler had an astute knowledge of religious texts and Gandhi had acknowledged him as one of  his character molder and other two being books of Tolstoy and Ruskin Bond(unto the Last). Tolstoy's ,' 'The Kingdom of God is within you' which surprisingly is not counted one among the important book by the author ( according to google search they are : War and Peace . Anna Karenina . Death of Ivan Ilych . Forged Coupon . Confession . Twenty-Three Tales . Exiled to Siberia . Kreutzer Sonata . Master and Man . Father Sergius . Articles .

Further I could read Gandhi's first case at Mumbai where he could not speak a word and returned the fee to client. But at Mumbai too he did not compromise for giving a per cent to tout for the case which being unsuccessful at Rajkot he had to accept as the fee used to be pooled among  a group or  advocates .
At Rajkot too he protested an English officer's bad behviour to him though he accepted that he should not have approached  for favour to his brother the officer out of his acquaintance at England ,
Having not practice to sustain him he had accepted a job offer of a Muslim businessman from India  but he insisted for First Class ticket for the ship and later was thrown out at Marizburge station by  a racist English. The next day also he insisted for his seat  in the cab and then too  for the final journey where station master a Hollander gave him First  Class ticket but on the condition that  he would not make him issue if asked to vacate by  police.
He was asked by the police but the Englishman in the coach this time  defended him that he had first class ticket and so he could travel.
Whether that man gave Gandhi's mind a twist that all Englishmen are not alike,I do not know but my own experience with  traveling an Englishman is good enough!
Maybe among ll the colonial powers English would be more civilized- even Shilpa Shetty was requested for a meeting  with the British PM recently when racist remark on TV show was headline.

A meeting of Maithils at the  Rastriya Sanskrit Vidaypeetam was initially fixed at 1030 am but  Thalkurji said that Krishneshwar Jha, Secretary,AMP,Tirupati  had examination duty and hence I asked him to advance it to 5 pm.
Around 530 he came and we went to Vidyapeetham.

It was so well-maintained an institute – every sign board written in Sanskrit  and every grass and flower was systematically decorated ; every building was well painted.
In the meeting hall gradually few Mathils assembled and we talked about Mithila- Maithili and  role of Pravasis in that. Young and energetic Baghish from a village badalpura of Begusarai  (son of a lady doctor Gayatri Kumar  Mishra  at the DMCH and his father Kunj Bihari Mishra was a businessman at Kathmandu) who was also youth secretary of a party LOKSATTA (started by an IAS, JaiPrakash Narayan ,after resigning, doing the work appropriate his name inspird by JP who lived whole life for establishing  Loksatta)  pointed that our orgnisation should be structured  systematically with rgistration etc.  to which I replied with our efforts in that direction and said that the AMP's main worker I may be but it was an ideology driven organization and hence has been working continuously.

Bagish  had probably difficulty in speaking Maithli and he for the most time spoke in English to which I without objecting continued  my saying in Maithili recalling an episode of  Darbhanga where my guru  Dr. B.N. Das Gupta was speaking in Hndi to some Mahaseth's (an important person of the town) son who was showing him some of  his album and  was describing in English.
With the given patience such would take up points as they have genuine difficulty in speaking a language which they usually not speaking in work.
The same Bagish had  good rag  of  Jai Jai Bhairavi ,  we sang in the end and also we repeated Bhagwan hamar Mithila Sukh Shanti ker ghar ho.
Gaurab Mishra of Sitamari and  Keshav Mishra of Darhar were also present though they did not participate much.
I said that an organization can be made by two or more persons who work for a goal and work consistently and hence they were now in addition to Radhakant Thakur and Krishneshwar Jha should search more and more Maithils in the locality so that we can not only have a good functioning unit there but also a Maithili Conference in coming days.

We came out and I saw  one among many portraits of the eminent persons in the entrance of  Ananatahayanam  Ayangar who was also the Governor of Bihar when we were child(in 1960s/70s).
Dr S. Radhakrishnan had inaugurated the institute- I could not understand the year written there on the plaque in  a great literary fashion.. Netra Ras Nav Chandra  AD (Netra = 2 as eyes are two ; Ras=6 as rassa are of six types, Nav=9, Chadra = 1 i.e.
2 6 9 1 will be read as 1962 ad-in Sanskrit you can write anything  in reverse order as well which will be  interpreted in right sequence but then where was the Vikam samvat? It was written  as  Vasu Chandra Gagan  Netra( Vasu=8-there are 8 Vasus, Chandra=1, Gagan=0, Netra=2) so it was 8 1 0 2  read inversely 2018 Vikram Samvat!
What a wonderful way to write- the beauty of Sanskrit.
I told them next time I come I want  to address students in my broken Sanskrit- once I had spoken in 2005 at my residence at Ranchi  on the eve  of Sanskrit Divas(Raksha Bandhan day).

I also told them that Sanskrit may be made National Language of India if it was simplified- by omitting Dwicvachan, keeping only 3 lakars(of 10, five are commonly used , and four cases only, any Indian can ;learn such Sanskrit in 10 days.

With Thakurjee I took  off of them and had a glimpses of the serene campus.
Thakurjee told me that there was a good Net Lab and  Chandrababu Naidu was amazed to see that.
It was an Accredited University and hopefully Thakurjee well regarded by students become VC of that a day.
He recalled my quotation of Amarnath Jha when he was introduced as the VC in a meeting at Allahabad University he had said, "Not Yet.," which he became later and was for more than a decade on that  post.

I also remarked on his faculty of Vedang (SHIKSHA || KALP || VYAKRAN || NIGHANTU / NIRUKT || CHHAND || JYOTISH) which I could not say to a Bengali student, named Vedang  at Tumkur doing his MBBS and could search that on google

I hoped someday I  would  stay in that campus and  would walk in the morning there.
I always feel my desire for being a teacher was not fulfilled due to destiny's hands.

While going to Kanchanji's house I said to Radhakant Thakurji that next time I would go to  the Sri Venkateshwar Medical College and contact students and teachers for the NMO. Dr. Sharma is not very overt to have acquaintance with other doctors but when we reached there was  a couple doctor- Mrs. Neeti Chandra, who was a student of 1882 batch at the Rajendra MC, Ranchi  and had my face familiar to her and her husband a professor of medicine Dr.R.Ramesh . We talked a lot about  Ranchi and Darbhanga,
In Andhra's cyclone of 1977,  I  had worked  and I recalled several  Telugu doctors,  particulary  his named Dr. Ramesh of Kurnool who once upon a time in 1980s had enrolled  69 subscribers of the Aayurviguan Pragati.
Prof.  Ramesh welcomed the idea of a national conference at  the SVMC after December and  asked me to call him next time I visit.
I had already talked with Dr. Archana for NMO's  lady members' (and their spouces/father of any  girl medical student) conference at Tirupati as a part of XXX year  Celebration  conference there which has been in my mind for long but could not be executed.

After dinner, I reached station with Radhkantji-  Whole station was filled with pilgrims  returning from the darshan of  Lord Balji- I was only who did not even try to go therein this visit too but like last visit I again asked  for prasad from a lady who though spoke Kannada was a Marathi.

This time my ticket was already confirmed but due to cough related headache I could hardly sleep and in the midnight was awakened by  TTE, "Sir ,you are a doctor;  a patient is having asthma in next coach."
I went to see but his pupils were dilated and fixed (He was died already).  He did not have asthma which is confused by laymen by wheeze  rather it was left ventricular failure- also called cardiac asthma  which occurs on the setting of  myocardial infarction. Though I tried to revive with thump and external cardiac message,  it was too late and declaring him dead I came back to my berth.
Human life is how much made of incidents and uncertainties! Some person needed me but  why not a few minutes before I was contacted.
I did my daily rituals including bath and puja and then seeing shrubs of Punarnava  around the rail tracks in the morning I had a memory of my father  who  used  that for liver diseases.  I was in time on duty in my office remembering," Every thing has a time."




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My Reply to an Anti-Mithila Bihari

An anti_Mithila Bihari who turned to an eager Maithili learner

Extracts from my Reply

Dear,

Regarding your comments I do not know your backgrounds (age, job and ideological convictions) and hence, I can give general reply only.

Thanks for appreciate the work for Mithila and for Maithili language but let me say that I had to join that work at a mature age of 37 years in 1992 when Maithili was removed as a subject from the BPSC by Laloo Govt. and had gone deep in the subject and am fairly convinced with facts and figures as to how a group was systematically neglected continuously in a state to which it does not belong principally.

Incidentally on 6.6.2007, I visited Bihar Govt.'s website-
http://gov.bih.nic.in/Profile/default.htm

You will be surprised to know that there is no mention of word Maithili and Mithila though its history has started from Sitamata.

This is the attitude of almost every non-Maithil Bihari and Maithils in fact constitute majority of Bihar only they are not united.

Even the name Bihar is Bihar not Vihar due to Maithili's way of writing "B" but would one consider renaming it as a whole as Mithila or even Mithila Bihar/Mithila Vihar which is logical after the separation of Jharkhand?


Sure," There is a need to understand that the regional conflicts in India are on rise," but India is constitutionally a Union of States and plurality of language and culture has been accepted and should be respected and our fight is democratic and constitutional- even Maithli's inclusion n the VIII Schedule was also a Constitutional one though protracted unnecessarily while it was in the Sahitya Akademy accepted since 1965,it could be included in 2003 only(and Govt. of Bihar and Jharkhand has yet to accept is as a State language though it boasts for Urdu which had divided India- though only 8 per cent Pakistani speaks Urdu).


"We will fell apart if we (all Bihari people) start thinking for the sake of our own culture/language instead for the whole region..." which region is Bihar only Patna where despite congestion of population Govt. wants each and every developmental icons-centres of excellences."

And there is nothing as BIHARI- and it can never evolve in the given mind set where you callously neglect around 50 per cent population.

"As far as representation is concerned it has to do with merit -" In which respect 'merit' you meant- if for language, Maithili is merited as one among best for its literary traditions even before Vidyapati-1360-1448 AD(with which Hindi and Bangla starts), we had encyclopedic work (Varnratnakar by Jyotitishwar-1280-1340 AD).


"And the 'real' people understand the meaning of unity," I could not follow it but till you respect diversity unity is improbable.


"Those who believe in numbers should be in politics-" Political education is one thing and partisan politics is other. In a democratic country every one should be politically educated.

"Lets first talk about development of Bihar-" True but whether Bihar is minus Mithila?
Come with data that out of how many new institutions how many in Mithila region-- I always say commissionary-wise allocation of higher centres and district-wise philanthropic/developmental work..
What are the figures of Bihar Govt.. go to website. .Mithila's Sheohar, Kishanganj least developed.. Patna, Nalanda highest..
So what should be priority?


"Once we are developed rest all the things will fall in place- ", but how with this mind set of having all things in your (Constituency's) cup...

"India had paid heavy price for being so diverse country. It becomes easier to provoke people and break their unity. We could have got independence in 1857 if we were united and not thought about regional gains. In fact we could not have been slaves for many years if we were united.-"

I do not know your ideological convictions- I am a RSS-bred person who has been working for past 43 years continuously for the national work of different dimensions (and has founded one of its wing- in most challenging branch of doctors) though I for some years have made myself free from prejudices.

Our idea is to see not unity n diversity but Bharat is one it looks different (and hence I have no apathy with a Bhojpuri or a Baluchi; a Magahi or a Manipuri as all sings the same song of Ram and Krishna). Talking for language and development is not breaking the unity. India's every language and region should develop otherwise a developed area would be a tumor (like Hyderabad is for AP and Bangalore for Karnataka and Mumbai for Maharshtra- if these are the indices of development. You must be aware that highest farmer's suicide is in Maharashtra and so Naxal menace in AP and north Karnataka is bubbling due to under development...when I say for Mithila more or less the condition is same while Patna is flourishing above national averages Mithila is drowned in floods..

Therefore, talking regional development of the underdeveloped areas is most national thing today. Even India's history des not start with 1947 or 1857 you quoted--which unity you wanted and which developed people- you delve deep in 1857 history -t were developed group/people who sided with British.

Slavery was imposed on us because Hindu society did not felt united- it was not a question of Hindu-Muslim unity...slavery started since 1193 with the establishment Muslim empire with the fall of Prithwiraj..not with 1757..by which time India was again with its inherent potential to fight had resurrected itself 1763..Panipat III (Marathas and Punjabis could made India free already but sure were not united against Abdali).
So it is a matter of Hindu unity.. wherever Hindus became less there is problem- Punjan, Bengal,Sindh(Pakistan), Kashmir , Nagaland. Manipur., Mizoram, Assam,Tripura, ....

This issue need not be compared with Maithili-Mithila issue- just that is a State of India we demand like Orissa or Kerala or Jharkhand- it has nothing to do with national unity as it would not be practical to teach all Biharis in Maithili (because it is spoken by maximum number there and had richer heritage than even Hindi which too start with Vidyapati's lyrics..) nor it would be practical to say Maithili or any other regional language to make them irrelevant in favour of Hindi(or English as some modern thinkers could say who see Shining India forgetting the poor Bharat).

In Bihar problem is not with Maithils problems is with other that they want to throttle Maithili and Mithila and if you cannot give respect to us better leave us, even otherwise we are poorer part not difficult to shed off like rich Jharkhand.

Yes, some politicians would lose value at Delhi but if three or four state person like Lalu will be contained a smaller area and if all good CMs they cant take more resources from centre(and less cost on aerial visits)- even the smaller parties would gain being national status like that of NCP (in three states, I told Ranjita, MP from Saharsa last year on a dais incidentally we were together at Faridabad).

After all these very big states need partition like in a big family.

When Bihar was made it was of 3 crore(today Kerala, the highly developed state, is 3 crore) so shelve it ..

0n 28.8.06 I had written in TOI,"A State should be formed with sufficient mass(area and population) for its self-sustenance to overcome rigid socio-economic as well as linguistic forces. This way it assumes a nearly well defined cultural shape. The mass of Indian states should be 2.5-5 per cent of area or population. Smaller states and Union Territories should be merged and bigger states shelved for optimal political potential. Mithila, Vidarbh, Purvanchal, Bundelkhand need serious consideration like Telangana."

In India I have been traveling all regions for past three decades and probably may be one who could do this with service and have no apathy with any one group.
On 5.6.2007, , a Manipuri website has published my article on Manipur..
http://www.e-pao.net/epSubPageSelector.asp?src=Manipur_the_Mani_of_India&ch=leisure&sub1=EI
( You might need to copy and paste the whole sentence if clicking on
the above link gives an error)

Maybe by my entering in Mithila fray it has become more nationalistic agitation, which could have gone in the hands of other divisive forces.

Nice to hear from a young man of 29 years.

Cast/creed is ok but about religion it is confusing word- Hinduism is not a religion but a Dharma, a way of life.
India was divided on the name of religion and may further divide for which Hindu thinkers have been apprehensive as it is their only motherland- in past too Hindus persecuted in Uganda, Pakistan, Bangladesh and even Sri Lanka take refuse in their only abode here.

True, if Indians shed their egos and work for their country then no one can stop them from becoming developed nation.

It is not that I do not change my views bit there should be convincing arguments.
Many times questions and answers both are tricky.

Though Indians are in better state than many countries our progressing would have been more.

Japan can become superpower once demolished completely during the time when India got Independence because they are nationalists to the core and give utmost importance to the primary teachers (only next to their King).

For solutions one need to know cause/s as well.

One will have to go back to history as well but for making a brighter future.
The countries, which are not taking lessons from its history, go to Archives.
We may be poor country materially bit have many things better than so called advanced countries and mere imitation is not good.

We may be one of the most corrupt in the world though for corruption every developed country too is famous (Japan, Amercia and many others) yet most of the corruption in India is embedded in its social causes. J used to say extravaganza in dowry, shraddha etc. were cause of corruption in our state, which is true to a large extent.
Honest persons though get honor in the end their life is miserable.

Today (11.6.07) is my ekadashi- I wanted to take curd with chura and asked two shops for curd- MRP printed was Rs.4 but both asked Rs.5, I did not take- it is also a type of corruption but not taking was not sufficient but I had no time and energy to approach authorities concerned.
And system will not be corrected without that..

Bihar's case cannot be seen isolated.

Not only Lalu Yadav his predecessors too did nothing for Bihar.

The fault of other Biharis is that they choose such leaders due to caste-afflictions and they are bound to suffer for that (and for that matter even Neetish is a cast leader- his party too is a caste party , personally he may be honest that is other thing).

Probably they are already segregated and distinct as people of Mithila, Magahi or Bhojpuri and it is better accepted as in past 100 years they could not be co leased and would not be in next 100 years as it is a matter of culture which though as Hindu is same is different regionally as those of Malayali and Tamil or Gujarati and Marathi.
And if country had no problem giving them their due status there would not be granting us our status as per provisions in the Constitution.

It is indeed sad that Bihar Gov removed Mathili from BPSC syllabus(and did not restore despite High court's severe remarks against them- now that the VIII Schedule status was granted by Vajpayee Govt. Bihar Govt. has restored in BPSC but yet to accord it a State language status though it is happy with Urdu as second language.
In fact Maithili deserves first language status in Bihar.

An unbiased census done by an Irish Sir G. A. Grierson in 1911 as the official Linguistic Surveyor General of India had put Maithili's figure 93, 89, 376 (including in-migrants in Bengal-1,96,782 and in Assam- 66,575 adding Nepal's 610,624 exact figure was 10,263,357 meaning around 1 crore in the then Bihar (of 3 crore) under Bengal presidency.
Now that Jharkhand is out (one third), Maithili speakers should be equivalent to that 1 in 2 crores (and increasing population taking same in all groups. it is half).
However, anti-Maithili propaganda by anti-Maithili Biharis has eroded its area as Angika and Vajjika and what not..

It is surprising that Tripura-Bengladesh- WB- Jharkhand/Bihar Bangla is same but Deoghar to Darbhanga Maithili is not same(Remember Binodanand Jha was from Depghar) and so from Champaran to Kishanganj..
It is because we were not granted a statehood..

Visit Bihar Govt.'s official website. http://gov.bih.nic.in/Profile/default.htm
there is no mention of Mithila or Maithili..
And so in different projects Mithila remains last or even not that..
had we a state at least one ALL India organisation must be within us- be IIT/AIIM/IIM anything which all are gifted to Patna on flimsy grounds..

Yes, the consensus of all non-Maithil Bihari leaders have been opposing Maithli including revered Dr. Rajendra Prasad who despite a dissent note by Dr.Amarnath Jha (on whose name there is still a hostel at Allahabad University and one hostel on his father Sir Ganganath Jha's name father and son were VCs there one decade each when it was the fourth University of India)..did not allow education by Maithili medium in 1930s during provincial government's day..

Jharkhand was historically a separate area and in fact for many decades Bihar exploited its revenue (and all Chara ghotalas were from that area).
Yes, from a nationalistic point of view what is difference if another 3-4 small states out from Bihar or U or MP or AP or Maharashtra?

As long as the people of those new states are prospering and living a dignified live all is fine. People will decide what they want. We can influence them with our thoughts but they will make the last call.

It is not that it is always for personal gains - Chhattisgarh has developed so much..and Sibu Soren had hardly been the cause of Jharkhad creation though he too struggled (and while a different thing than this debate...he might have taken bribe but what about the scholar PM of Cong(I) who gave bribe?? Press is silent and public ignorant.

TRS has got immense popularity in the region which is very much under developed and hence, Naxal infested .

If Maithls say they want a state it is dangerous but what about all others- from Manipur to Gujarat from Kashmir to Keral..India's states have been linguistic whether you like or not??
Probably smaller states (not too tiny like Goa or Manipur) do prosper(about 2-3 crores population) as I wrote for efficient administration and hence , all BIMARU states need division for development-.

Because I am from Mithila I can ask my people that it fits most appropriate in the Bill- even Syed Shahabuddin, Muslim ideologue(not criminal Shabauddin) and Govindacharya(Hindu ideologue) had supported Mithila's case..

Hindi bashing in Tamil Nadu has different cause though common Tamilian does not hate Hindi. Raj Thakrey, Sheela Dikshit do not represent their local people.

Punjab-Haryana, Assam carnage are pathetic and Karnataka - Maharashtra episodes are dangerous for India, true but why in-migration because of non-development of the vast track of BIMARU area for obvious reasons which need political, economic restructuring on a faster level.

'Tit for tat' is not advisable in any case.

How Biharis have been treating Marwaris/Nepalis like jews or 'Cooleys' to Indians in South Africa?

Only talking for unity will not work- one will have to work on various planes- local village/district/regional as well as national.

I do not want you be submerged in anyone's seniority but be pragmatic in thinking and work..
I can tell you what I was doing when I was 29 years( in 1984 was struggling for my MD as well as undertook a 41 day tour of south India to propagate a medical journal in Hindi working for a national organisation of Medicos I founded in my 22nd year- still I am working for that on national level. Yesterday I talked a Tirupati physician to organise its conference there(and he was a Christian?)- Where I have problems if other party is able to understand my genuine grievances- do you think that I had stopped my anti-conversion view. No .
But still we can work for common scientific development..
It needs a magnanimity of personalities which is to be inculcated by rigorous and continuous efforts.

It is not the question of how many students enroll for Maithili or any language.
SC has direction even if 10 students a teacher is to be provided in primary education.
Question is you can allow Bengali and Urdu but not Maithili language in Bihar State School?
" If there are enough students to learn Maithili then this move is really in bad taste."

Maithili is offered in almost all Universities of Bihar up to D Litt?
When it was removed from the BSC its students strength of such classes came down before that it was in thousands in many universities and would again be same after its restoration in the BPSC(JPSC on the anvil) and inclusion in the UPSC.

1992 to 2006 - Govt. of Bihar tried to throttle a language, the language of Vidyapati and many great persons to name Nagarjuna in the end(who is said to be fakkad poet after Kabir).
Hindi starts with Vidyapati but does not end with Yatri Nagarjuna or Suman- it is the irony of Hindi that it is not accepted by people like me who ask for Sanskrit as national language.
I agree it is not only Maithli language but most of the Indian languages are loosing to English in a really slow poisonous way but it is ONLY MAITHILI which has been facing a step-motherly attitude by GOVT.( of Bihar). If the subject is removed for 15 years from the examination worth job who will take up that?

It is a genocide like sacrilege Lalu did and he met to his fate. Others too will not be spared for.
Let me say that in 1917 Sir Ashutosh Mukhejee included Maithili as a subject in Calcutta University but it was protested by Patna and Bihar University.

Except Magahis and Bhojpuris none of the indian is Maithili-baiter.
And hence, we want ourselves to be out of the black hole of Bihar.

>"At the same time, I would like to know when people from Bihar move out from state (people speaking Maithili, Bhojpuri, Magahi etc) they send their children to convent school and obviously they don't learn Maithli or any other such language over there in schools."- It is applicable to all Indian languages.
They are very passionate about their mother tongue so they speak their language in their home.
These people have better job opportunities as well.
"At the same time if students back home have to study local language along with Hindi and English don't you think it would be unnecessary burden on them."
"NO, a polyglot is a better student of any faculty other than language too as per the scientific evidences. Moreover it is applicable to majority of Indians Malayalee, Tamil, Telugu ,Bengali, Assame, etc. .etc..'
Even being different language the literature of all is same- it is one looks different and hence it sharpens the mind of baby rather than burdening him/her.
"If they are really in love of their mother language they will continue to spread its beauty but if they have to choose between a language with can offer then job and mother tongue then most people would opt for English."
- Those who had better mother tongue also could have better English-Is in India anybody to challenge Amarnath Jha or Damodar Thakur 's English.
Remember they all spoke Maithili in house.
True-"This is the irony of poor country we just keep loosing our local customs / languages at the cost of languages which are saleable." and language is a part of our culture.

>"I know about Mulayam Singh Yadav who supports Hindi and at the same time sends his son to Australia for higher studies. This is hypocrisy."
Though am not supporter of Mulayam but sending someone for higher studies(i do not which faculty) is not bad and more so such high profile have several security concern to their children as well.

>"I think the problem is deep rooted. The core here is: choose any one between = your mother tongue OR a language which can offer you job. And people go for option 2."
So far students are not allowed by State boards at least to take English as mother tongue-In CBSE too there is mother tongue paper.

>"We need to first understand why people dont want to learn their own mother tongue?-" Our objection is on throttling Maithili, if the Govt. 'paranoidically' decided NO INDIAN Languages will be taught where we are but if you force us to read Hindi as mother tongue we will object- as Rastra Bhasha paper ok but our mother tongue is different. And you should respect that OR Make us separate where we can teach our students all subjects in our tongue at school level as per direction of the HC.

>"Whatever be the reason it is really sad that Maithili language is dropped from syllabus in Bihar. If we can show the figure to Bihar Govt. that there are enough people ready to learn Maithili then may be they will reconsider their decision."
"If a population of half of the state has not even some students to read Maithili then OK we deserve MINORITY LANGAGE STATUS and then more privileges we will have- Patna HC had already warned Bihar Govt. in this matter.

>Bit I know how to deal with these politicians. They only know electoral strength and I have calculated that in 89 (28 in Mithila and others by in-migrant voters) parliamentary constituencies Maithils have sizable votes and am organising them to vote for those who would help Mithila State or Maithili's cause.
As Vajayee did a lot for Maithili we were binded with BJP but not that condition would be with other leading BJP or failing his work in states like Bihar and Jharkhand.
Let them neglect us we will show them the doors."

Differences in opinion should be welcomed efforts must be united.
Lenin had said (though I am not a communist),"March separately, strike together."

Peoples views on separate states would differ but India is a Union of States and Mithila fits the Bill on any count including language, culture, economics, national security etc.etc. and there is no point that any one equates it or any nationalists demand for statehood to any anti-national campaign like Khalistan.


"I don't have any concrete reason (facts that prove me that linguistic separation leads to prosperity). - It gives homogeneity like in Bengal or Kerala things are done in their languages be education or administration.

Our problem is to become like even if Punjab in prosperity not to talk of Singapore.
You have picked up another issue which needs details as to what happened with Sikhs which is a matter of long article but let me say in a line that Sikhs are part and parcel of Hindus and it was the British ploy who made them different seeing their valour and were apprehensive of rebellion from them just after 1857(Kooka Revolt)

Yes, there was a time before World war I (1814-19) that Sikhs and other under Lala hardayal had made Gadar Party to free India but now from there Khalistan sings..Who patronised Bhinderwalan? same Indira whom they killed.
When political considerations have upper hands than national these happen.

I never thought to go abroad though was well equipped with knowledge to settle anywhere for my organisational responsibilities and though I could work it was not without a price on my personal life but it happens with all who are non-compromising with values.

Whenever a young takes interest in social problems it gives pleasure to person like me.
I have not even asked from where you belong to but if you can concentrate on work as per your choice and area it is good but be genuine.
If you work for Bihar , currently Mithila is half of and that is its due.
If you work for your area or district working for that is equally important.
If you work for nation, Bihar constitus 8 per cent.
Problem comes when one on a potion to work for whole becomes myopic..
Remember Dhritrastras are born old and Abhimanyus die young.

Some MPs from Mithila have tried in their capacity for the uplifting Mithila Region but most of them are not even aware of the problems for the development and or of Maithli language.

I have no hesitation to talk to other non-Maithils who are in Bihar but I am sorry most have vision of Dhritrashtra(in past one century and they have proved unworthy of the job to retain us along with them).

If you write where you are I can refer some Maithils of that area.
I am not aware of learning Maithili online but such a course should be explored to start by some of our IT workers even if it was there already.
(Rajeev Ranjan Lall rajeevranjanlall[at]gmail.com has accepted this responsibility. Other should help him in sending words, phrases, Maithili Grammar book, etc. so that the course takes a shape within few days.)

Dr. Dhanakar Thakur
Spokesman,
Antarrashtriya Maithili Parishad
www.geocities.com/maithili_parishad